Trev's VeeWRX Project
Body-Chassis
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Body-Chassis
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'74 torsion bar, swing axle chassis
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needs floor pans
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ditto
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ditto
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Body:
The body will have to be considerably chopped about behind the scenes to fit
the engine under stock external panels. The idea of this project is to keep
it all looking fairly standard from outside, or at least not too obviously
modified. The rear firewall will have to be modified considerably considering
the relocation of the gearbox, and the sheer size of the engine. The "shelves"
inside the engine bay will have to be removed, and the rear apron will be
made removable. I'm considering even making the entire rear portion of bodywork
removable. A roll cage will almost be a prerequisite, and the plan is to tie
in the front torsion tubes and chassis forks at the rear. It will probably
include a subframe to support the rear panels.
The body itself will most likely be a '70s shell. I wouldn't feel too good
about cutting up a pre '67 body, as they're getting rarer by the day. '70s
beetles are still in relatively plentiful supply, so I won't feel too bad!
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the project begins...
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it's in overall good condition
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mystery twin port 1200 engine
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shame the nice interior won't last long!
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rear side pop-out windows
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optional extra Kamei tunnel tray
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23-2-2004:
Body/Chassis:
The gearbox has been swapped for some other parts for the car (namely
a genuine VW "bulge" rear apron) and a 1600 cylinder head for
my other beetle that spat out a sparkplug last week. I have taken the
advice of someone who has already done it and decided not to fit the sunroof
section. Apparently they're a nightmare to seal up properly and parts
aren't readily available for them. So it shall remain a hardtop. After
taking a GOOD look under the car, I have discovered a few more rusty spots
than originally seen. There are a couple of perforations in the floor
and previous patch work is evident. Likewise in the rear inner wheel wells.
I am now at a point where I have to decide whether to go through the whole
rust repair thing again (been there with the other bug, it wasn't fun!)
or look out for a better one to start with. If I do I will make sure I
do a thorough search of the underside for rust. Either way, I won't have
lost a huge amount of money on this car, selling the goodies off it made
back some of the purchase price. But I may be back to square one. I could
shell out a load of cash on panels, welding and paint, or I could spend
that money on a solid base car...
The rear apron is a genuine VW de Mexico rear valance, complete with a
single cutout for the Mexican single peashooter exhaust. It is bulged
to accommodate the catalytic convertor that was fitted to some of the
later exhausts. I plan to widen the cutout to make room for the exhaust
from the Subaru engine.
Interior:
I got a complete set (front and rear) of leather seats from a Mk2 Golf
GTi from an internet ad. They're in 90% good condition, if I can find
a reputable upholsterer, I might get them recovered. However, there aren't
many trimmers in Ireland. The fronts are on 3-point runners, same as the
1303, but the rear legs will need to be narrowed approximately 20mm each
side to fit the 1303 rails. I have to see if the rear seat is the correct
width to fit the beetle. It probably won't be, but it's worth a shot.
The other thing is, they're dark green, and might not suit the colour
I choose for the exterior unless I go for a shade of green. This hasn't
been decided yet, so I might leave that til later!
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VW "bulge" rear apron
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ditto
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Leather Mk2 Golf GTi seats
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25-5-2004:
Body/Chassis:
I was at a loose end last weekend and since the weather has picked
up in the last few weeks, I figured it would be a good time to lift
the body from the chassis. I think I'll keep the body I have now,
it does need some work, but isn't the worst beetle I've come across,
and you know what they say: a bird in the hand is better than two
in the bush! So I spent Saturday under the car, removing all the bolts
that hold the body to the chassis. Almost all of these came out fine,
except for two of the captive nuts in the heater channel on the passenger
side coming loose and one of the pair of 17mm bolts on the drivers
side shearing off. This one was MUCH more cooperative than my first
project! There were however, a lot more things holding the body down
compared to a torsion bar bug, like the struts, steering box, steering
idler arm, another pair of bolts hiding under the carpet on the top
of the tunnel etc. It was a bit of a learning experience for me!
Luckily, my father has a large hoist with a block and tackle for lifting
heavy things, so I put it to good use by tying ropes to the four bumper
brackets and lifting the body enough to drag the chassis out from
beneath it. Once I had the body off and the chassis out, I put the
body back down on some blocks and parked the chassis for the night.
The next day I made up a castor for the front of the chassis to keep
it mobile. The 1303 chassis is different to the torsion bar bugs in
that when the body is lifted from a torsion bar bug, the chassis is
completely independent and capable of remaining on its wheels and
keeping mobile. I suppose this is what made it so popular with kit-car
manufacturers over the years. However, the 1303 front struts, once
detached from the body, are pretty much disabled and the front suspension
just collapses. I removed the struts and using a pair of wheels from
some old trolley or other (donated by my uncle!) and some scraps of
steel that were lying about I fabricated a crude frame that bolted
onto the front of the chassis to keep it mobile.
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Lifting the body with the hoist
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halfway there!
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chassis freed from body
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chassis dragged out from underneath
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the body on its own
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where the 915 box will go
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will need new floorpans
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frame to keep front of chassis mobile
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4-7-2004:
Chassis:
Work has begun in earnest of chopping the bejesus out of the chassis
to fit the Porsche gearbox. For the full lowdown, check the engine-transmission
page...
31-10-2004:
Body/Chassis:
Since I had the engine and gearbox mounted in the chassis, and pushed
as far forward as the CV joints would allow, I figured the next thing
to do was to drop the body back down onto the chassis to see how well
the engine fitted inside the bodyshell. I realise that the CVs are
in fact too far out of alignment and would not work under power, but
at the moment I'm still working with type1 CV joints, and I will end
up type2 CVs which have more scope for movement. If I build it to
work with type1 CVs it will certainly work with type2 CVs.
So, on Saturday morning I pushed the chassis out into the yard and hoisted the body up high enough to be able to push the chassis in underneath. With a couple of body-chassis bolts in place at the very front purely for location, I could see that the bodyshell was resting on the engine at the back. It was clashing at the turbo, the inlet throat and at the cambelt covers. To make room the rear apron was the first to go, primarily to allow beter access but also because it was catching on the cambelt cover. The engine bay "shelves" were next, as the engine ancillaries needed room to fit. The bumper mounts and some of the inner wings followed soon after, to clear the cambelt covers too, and the vertical engine sealing plate at the bottom of the firewall was chiselled off. However, even with all this metal removed, the body would still not sit down properly. The gearbox, being raised and pushed forward, was interfering with the under-seat area so a large hole was made to accomodate it. Next to go was a large portion of the rear parcel space floor and the firewall. You can see below how much was cut out of this area. I will fabricate panels to enclose the engine later on. I'm thinking of panelling right behind the back seat and making a steel parcel shelf at the top of the seat back, and having all the space inside left open to the engine bay. It will make for good access to the engine bay once it's up and running.
By Sunday afternoon, I had the body sitting back down where it should be, the engine and gearbox fully clearanced within the body, the front suspension loosely reinstalled to make the car mobile again, and a large pile of scrap metal on the floor! I will have to pull the engine backwards a bit to ease off on the CV joints (they're even straining when moving the car around the garage!), but now I can see exactly how far I can go and still keep the engine within the stock bodyshell. One of the main constraints with this project is that from the outside the car should look largely stock except maybe for the wheels. To get the gearbox back a bit, I will have to extend the gearbox mounts to support the Subaru engine mounts, but that'll just involve welding another plate on. Once I'm happy with the location, I will remake the prototype engine mounts for final use. I also still have to make a front gearbox mount, I was leaving that til I knew where the front of the gearbox was going to be!
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Dropping the body back down, it is resting
on the engine. Guess what, it won't fit!!
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the body needs to be dropped a lot more
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the rear apron was first to go
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followed by some of the inner wings and the
vertical engine sealing plate
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then make room for the gearbox
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and create a huge hole to clear the rest of
the engine!
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apron offered back up to check that everything
is contained
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fits within stock body panels
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monster garage, Irish style!
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lid closes like it should
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loads of ground clearance
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no need for shortened sumps here!
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4-7-05:
Body/Chassis:
The time has finally come to make a front gearbox mount and properly
make the rear engine mounts. First thing to do is to take the body
off again. Since the front suspension collapses when the body is
lifted and last time the chassis wasn't exactly mobile with the
body off, I decided to build a frame up to support the struts. I
made a brace to go between the strut tops before lifting the body.
This ensured the distance between them stays correct when the body
is off. When the chassis was freed, I welded in some diagonals to
brace the struts front to back and tied the steering arms in place
with some wire.
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Body being lifted from chassis again
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Brace made between strut tops before lifing
body...
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...and incorporated into a frame to support
struts when the body is off.
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A better look at the space made to fit the
engine.
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30-12-05:
Body:
After months of trying to find the time, I collected the '54 oval
window bodyshell I had agreed to buy from a guy in Wexford (Hi
Barry!). I bought an A-frame and hooked it up to a bare '71 chassis
I have and towed it to Wexford in the rain. The 50 mile journey
took ages due to a binding brake shoe and a kerb-side bodge to
secure a front track rod in place using a key-ring! It was well
after dark when we collected the shell and after lifting it onto
and strapping it down to the chassis we set out for home. The
next day when the rain had stopped I took some snaps, below. The
body is still on the '71 chassis but will soon have its parcel
shelf cut out and the rear body mounts altered to fit over the
1303 chassis. I intend to fabricate a subframe inside the front
bonnet area to tie the strut tops together and support the front
suspension. The geometry will be measured carefully from the 1303
shell to ensure it is consistent in the swap over, except for
one difference: I am using the Porsche 944 front spindles and
the positive camber they create when bolted directly to VW struts
will be taken back by tilting the struts further inboard. This
involved making the strut top mounts closer inboard.
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The '54 shell, the 1303 shell is in the
background
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It will need some minor rust repairs
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One of those minor rust repairs...
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...another...
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...and another.
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The front quarters had already been cut
and welded to clear a narrowed beam.
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The rear bodywork was cut off to facilitate
an abandoned concourse resto.
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More repairs needed here.
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12-2-06:
Body/Chassis:
After measuring the required hole from the 1303 shell that I
had already cut, I made the incision in the oval shell. I did
have a pang of guilt as the grinder made its first bite into
the perfectly serviceable 52 year old metal, but that soon passed!
Once the large rectangular hole had been cut, I propped the
shell up on some saw horses and rolled the '71 swing axle chassis
out from underneath. Then the 1303 shell complete with Subaru
motor was pushed under and the body lowered onto it. Once wrestled
into position, I could see what material needed to be removed
to make room for the front end of the gearbox. The rear body
mounts on the oval shell are positioned lower on the rear quarter
panels than the '70s bdyshells, so they had to be removed and
will be repositioned higher up at a later date.
With the body settled down where it should be, I refitted the
intercooler to the inlet manifold to see how it fits. The plan
is to install NACA ducts that I bought from Ebay into the rear
side windows to feed cold air to the intercooler. If this doesn't
work out, I'll investigate a chargecooler.
Since the body is LHD, I'll convert the chassis to suit. The
1303 steering gear was fitted to the body while the oval steering
gear was fitted to the front beam. This car has neither a front
beam nor mounting points on the body so I figured a steering
rack on custom mounts was the way to go. Eoin from Cork donated
a scrap LHD mk2 golf non-power steering rack to the project.
It was only when I got it home that I discovered that it won't
work: the steering arms on the golf are behind the spindle,
the steering arms on the Porsche brakes are in front of the
spindles. This means that if the steering wheel is turned left,
the wheels will turn right. A RHD rack fitted the "wrong"
way round will solve the problem for me. The golf rack looks
like it will do the job, it's close to the right width. I plan
to cut the last few inches from the stock 1303 track rods and
sleeve them onto the rods on the rack. That way I'll retain
the correct track rod ends and the correct amount of adjustability.
Another test wheel has been sourced from Ebay, it's a Boxster
17" cup front wheel. With a width of 7" and an offset
of 55mm, it fits nicely with no fouling on the rear. I reckon
I can even go for deeper offset wheels with no need for spacers.
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After cutting a similar sized hole in
the parcel tray to the hole in the 1303...
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...and lifting the body off the temporary
swing axle chassis...
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...the oval body was lowered over the
1303 chassis.
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The rear cross-member had to be clearanced
for the transmission.
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And the rear body mounts were removed
to allow the body to sit where it should.
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You can see now why such a large hole
was required. The intercooler is right up there
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A mk2 golf steering rack was offered
up for size.
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Another test wheel: Boxster 17"
twist.
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17-4-06:
Body/Chassis:
This weekend was spent making a jig from the 1303 shell to
transfer the strut top locations to the oval shell. The furthest
forward point that is common to both the 1303 and oval bodies
is the door pillars and on the pillars are the door hinge
mounts. Since these are in the same place they make for a
convenient point to base a jig from. The first thing to do
was to weld a rod between the top and bottom hinges of a pair
of scrap doors to preserve their location and orientation
in relation to each other. Then a brace was fitted to the
strut tops inside the bonnet area to locate the strut tops
in relation to each other. From there, another brace was welded
to the door hinges to pick up the strut top locations from
the underside. This resulted in three pieces of the jig that
locate the strut top positions in relation to the door hinges.
All that was left to do was to mark the centre of the strut
top jig as the jig was free to move a little side-to-side
when in the oval shell.
Once the jig was made, it was unbolted from itself and the
1303 door pillars and offered up to the oval shell. From the
outer portions I could estimate where and how much of the
front quarter panels had to be cut out to allow for strut
top plates to protrude through. These will be laser cut from
5mm steel plate and welded to the frame that will be fabricated
to fit over the tank under the bonnet of the oval.
I also trial fitted one of the rear wings over the boxster
wheel. it sticks out beyond the wheel arch lip by about 25-30mm.
I will need to buy or make wider wings for the rear at least,
but more than likely for the front too.
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This is the centre portion of the
jig in the 1303 shell...
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...and the right side piece, from
the hinges to the strut top.
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Transferred to the oval shell.
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This is where the strut should end
up.
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Ditto.
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The three pieces of the jig bolted
together in the oval shell.
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A hole was cut in both of the front
quarter panels.
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Rear wing trial fitted.
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11-5-06:
Body:
I picked up a 6-point roll cage from an ad on Volkszone,
thanks to Dave Wheatley of the Ireland
Aircooled Centre for delivering it for me! After getting
it home I trial fitted it to the car to find that while
the rear section fits nicely, the front section conflicts
with the roof reinforcement above the windscreen. I reckon
this is down to the oval having a smaller windscreen than
a '70s bug and consequently larger reinforcements around
the windscreen. I think a couple of inches less on the front
legs of the cage should sort it out and bring it back into
line. Having the cage installed will allow me to tie the
front suspension frame into it and make for a 8 point cage!
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6 point roll cage
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ditto...
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rear part of cage trial fitted
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just enough of the rear shelf to
fix it to
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front portion wouldn't fit
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engine completely within stock body
panels
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rear apron clamped in place
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anyone got a "W" lid for
me? ;-)
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28-5-06:
Body:
This weekend I made some perspex rear side windows for
the oval as I need to get fresh air to the intercooler
and a pair of NACA ducts seemed like a good way of doing
it. It remains to be seen how effective they're going
to be, but if they're not up to much I can always put
glass windows in and try something else. I used a stock
glass window to trace a template onto a sheet of perspex
and then after marking out the INSIDE of the NACA duct
on the perspex I cut the hole for those. You can see them
taped in place below, I still have to decide whether to
bond or bolt them in place. In the absence of proper window
rubbers I cut down some old '70s rubbers I had spare to
get them trial fitted. All is fine and should be fine
when I get the proper rubbers. I'll need to get some hose
to suit the bore of the ducts and make some kind of shroud
to cover the intercooler and accept the hose. Bigger fish
to fry at the moment though!
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Perspex windows and NACA ducts
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They shouldn't interfere with
rear seat passengers...
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7-9-06:
Body:
After weeks of rushing stuff to make them look half
"finished" I hired a trailer to drag the less
than half finished project along to the inaugural Irish
Kit & Custom Car show in Dublin on Sunday 27-8-06.
I towed it behind my Westy on the Saturday after staying
up til 1AM on the Friday night wiring the trailer socket
and welding on an extension plate to space the tow bar
away from the back bumper of the van the Saturday morning.
To say my heart was in my mouth while towing would be
an understatement! It was the first time I'd towed anything
on a trailer. I've towed bugs on A-frames before but
the trailer was MASSIVE and bloody heavy. I took it
veeeery easy: it took more than three hours to make
the 80 mile journey from the garage to my mate's house
to prepare the bug for the show. You can see below the
transformation that took place on the Saturday night,
from multicolour "project" to a passable impression
of a stripped-out racer that nobody at the show really
suspected was very much a project.
The day of the show went well. I was determined to make
it there with the bug to support my club, the Irish
Street Rod Association, and with a lot of help I
made it (thanks Luan!). The bug was well received by
the public, attracting lots of questions about how it
was put together, what the plans were etc. Some even
asked how fast it went!
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BEFORE: leaving the garage Saturday
afternoon
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DURING: Luan creating "the
look" on Saturday night ;-)
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AFTER: on the way to the show
Sunday morning
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compare to the first pic...
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at the show, at last!
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pic thanks to Paul S
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pic thanks to Paul S
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pic thanks to Paul S
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7-10-07:
Body/Chassis:
Well, 13 months to the day since the last update,
project VeeWRX is back in action! In the mean time
I've been back to college to become a teacher, gotten
married, been on honeymoon, started a new job as a
teacher, moved house and restored my other bug to
have it ready for the wedding. You can see how the
VeeWRX has had to be put on the back burner!
So, with the intention of concentrating on the chassis and running gear for the next while, I had to remove the body from the chassis. To do this I had to unearth the car from its resting place outside the garage and roll it back inside. You'll see that three of the wings and the rear apron have gone missing since last year, these were pirated for the other bug as mentioned above. I don't feel too bad for taking them as they were never going to be wide enough for the Porsche suspension and wheels and wider alternatives will have to be sourced anyway. To get the body off I had to disassemble the front suspension framework that I made last year as it passes through the body. Once that was taken apart, and the few bolts in the heater channels removed, I was able to roll the body off one side of the pan. With the body and chassis separated I reassembled the front suspension on the chassis and made a simple rigid bar to bolt to the steering arms to keep the wheels steering together (at the moment the steering rack is fixed to the shell). I rolled a spare torsion bar chassis under the shell and lifted the body onto that for temporary storage.
That's about all I got done this weekend, I now have some serious re-evaluating to do. I'm not entirely happy with my decision to remove the centre from the rear torsion tube as it has significantly weakened the structure. I'm considering either welding the centre back in or replacing the whole rear end with the removable rear subframe from an IRS VW Type3 that I have. I'll have to figure out where to place the gearbox if I reinstate the torsion tube.
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The hedge the car has sat
in since May '07 ;-)
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ditto...
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ready to be rolled back into
the garage
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stripping the shell to remove
it
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body rolled off the chassis
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ditto...
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front suspension reassembled
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body on spare torsion bar
chassis
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chassis assembled and rolling
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ditto...
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ditto...
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ditto...
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not entirely happy with rear
torsion tube, watch this space for the solution...
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4-11-07:
Chassis:
After thinking about it and taking advice from a
few of the knowledgeable guys on www.vwkd.co.uk
I decided not to reinstate the rear torsion tube
but to make a brace to strengthen the tube instead.
As soon as I've finished the front gearbox mount
I'll weld in a flat bar (something substantial like
10mm x 50mm stock) across the bottom of the frame
horns as close to the line of the torsion tubes
as possible.
I found a pair of engine mounts and brackets in the garage, I believe they're from some Japanese diesel engine so I welded the brackets into the corner between the torsion tube and the rear chassis cross member. I plan on making a "W" shaped cross brace from flat plate (I'm thinking of 3mm plate) that will bolt to the front of the gearbox using the 4 stock 915 studs and pick up the front mounts. This will roughly approximate the stock Porsche style mount and should be adequate for the job. There is no rear mount for the transmission as the stock Subaru engine mounts are being used at the ends of the frame horns. The engine and gearbox will have to be fitted to the chassis as a unit.
The Porsche 944 rear anti-roll bar was offered up to check for clearance and bracket locations. I will have to make the mounts to fix it to the torsion tube anyway but I will also have to ensure it is spaced out enough to clear the transmission. The way the centre portion of the bar kicks upwards brings it very close to the larger 915 transmission.
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Arch brace welded in over
the top of the gearbox to link the tubes
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ditto...
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ditto...
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rear coilovers mocked up
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chassis flipped up to weld
in gearbox mounts
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mount brackets welded in
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944 rear anti-roll bar in
place
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5-2-08:
Chassis:
After flipping the chassis up on its side again,
I tackled the lower brace to restore some strength
to the rear of the chassis. Having completed the
arch over the top of the torsion tube and the
from transmission support brackets, I now had
a good idea of where the lower brace should go.
So I picked up some 10mm x 50mm flat stock and
cut and ground the bar to shape to fit snugly
between the lower edges of the frame horns, in
line with the torsion tube(s). Coupled with the
upper arch the torsion tubes should now be as
solid as it was when it was a single member. I
might consider some additional braces to other
chassis points later when the engine is back in
and the body back on.
Next on the list is to make the front transmission
support to connect the trans to the mounts and
support brackets to tie the rear anti-roll bar
to the torsion tubes, like in the 944.
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Chassis flipped up again
to measure up for the lower brace
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Closer up.The brace will
be in line with the torsion tube(s)
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Chassis flipped on other
side, brace welded in
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ditto...
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End-on view of bracing
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ditto...
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Illustration of what needs
to be fabricated and where
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10-2-08:
Chassis:
Today I measured up, cut and drilled a front
mount for the transmission. The 60mm wide, 3mm
thick steel plate connects the stock four mounting
studs on the transmission to the two mounts
I welded into the chassis. There are gaps between
the plate and the transmission (approx 25mm)
and the rubber mounts (approx 5mm) that will
need to be packed out with additional plates
or blocks of some sort. If I can lay my hands
on some aluminium billet thick enough I might
use that but if not it will be a series of steel
plates layered up to get the right heights.
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transmission front mount
in place
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still need to make packing
blocks
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19-5-08:
Chassis:
After a friendly word of advice from Rich
Olafsson www.ricola.co.uk
I was inclined to agree with him that the
single 3mm flat bar wasn't going to be strong
enough to withstand flex at the transmission
nose cone. I decided to swap the flat bar
for a length of 25mm x 50mm box section steel.
While I didn't get the cross bar finished,
I did manage to cut it to length, mitre the
ends to make it easier to bolt up to the rubber
transmission mounts and make some packing
shims to help it clear the chassis frame horns.
It is 5mm clear of the framehorns now. If
it needs more clearance when the engine is
bolted back up I can simply add another shim
to pack it out. Next step is to bolt a steel
plate to the transmission mounting points
and weld a bar between that plate and the
new crossbar.
I got a new chop saw to make life a bit easier too. It was a huge pain in the ass cutting steel box section and plate with a 4" angle grinder. The chop saw will make cleaner, straighter, quicker cuts than the grinder.
While I had the camera handy, I took a pic of the bodyshell as it languishes outside the garage. It's becoming quite a greenhouse for the nettles and weeds!!
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revised transmission
nosecone crossbar
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needs connecting to
the nosecone to finish
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new chop saw
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the shell in temporary
storage!!
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26-5-08:
Chassis:
Following from last week's progress, I finalised
the front transmission mount with a bit
of welding. I wound the M8 studs into the
transmission and bolted up the plate and
then tacked a couple of spots to secure
them before unbolting the whole lot and
completing the welding with the mount on
the floor. My welding is getting better,
the first weld is very messy, so messy I'll
grind it back and redo it but the welding
on the other side is far better :-) .
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brace finally welded
and bolted in place
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much stronger and
simpler than first idea
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dodgy welds need
to be ground back and redone
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getting better!!
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